chanduv23
11-25 04:09 PM
A general question - Is it normal to see LUDs on the 485, approved 140, approved 765/131 a few (3) weeks after sending AC21/G28N documentation in?
I changed employers about a month ago (140 approved, 485 pending more than 180 days), and the new company filed AC21 on Nov 3. I saw a soft LUD on my 765, 131, 485, 140 yesterday (Nov 24) and another soft LUD on just my 485 today (Nov 25). I wonder if these have to do with the AC21 and G-28N updates or if it is a sign of I-140 revocation and I should expect a 485 denial soon?
Any response will be highly appreciated.
Thanks,
g 28 does produce soft LUds so it is normal. Now AC21 documentation - whether it reaches file or not we don't know.
I changed employers about a month ago (140 approved, 485 pending more than 180 days), and the new company filed AC21 on Nov 3. I saw a soft LUD on my 765, 131, 485, 140 yesterday (Nov 24) and another soft LUD on just my 485 today (Nov 25). I wonder if these have to do with the AC21 and G-28N updates or if it is a sign of I-140 revocation and I should expect a 485 denial soon?
Any response will be highly appreciated.
Thanks,
g 28 does produce soft LUds so it is normal. Now AC21 documentation - whether it reaches file or not we don't know.
satyasrd
08-12 01:22 PM
We all know that these IT companies/ "body shops" will not bear the brunt of this.
It is always the employees who will get distressed. Large organizations will quietly offshore more jobs while smaller ones will charge this from the employee, legal or not.
I pity those who think this will create more jobs for Americans. They are truly ignorant of how the system works.
And like most of you already mentioned, it's funny how a small group (few thousand) of legal immigrants are targeted while millions of illegals (and the companies that hire them) are going untouched !
It is always the employees who will get distressed. Large organizations will quietly offshore more jobs while smaller ones will charge this from the employee, legal or not.
I pity those who think this will create more jobs for Americans. They are truly ignorant of how the system works.
And like most of you already mentioned, it's funny how a small group (few thousand) of legal immigrants are targeted while millions of illegals (and the companies that hire them) are going untouched !
chanduv23
06-13 10:56 AM
IV has changed our lives.
Folks - look back at the situation beyond last year
Retrogression
Desi employer blood sucking
Labor issues
Companies closing down
No job promotions no salary hikes
CIR Draconian bill
Durbin Grassley bill
July fiasco
Look at the difference IV made
Constant grassroots lobbying - bringing awareness
Extreme dedication of all volunteers - kept IV going
Trust and faith - providing confidence and support
Hard work and faced criticism in a positive manner
Flower campaign during July fiasco - visa bulletin reversal
September 18th massive rally - first time IV could manage to stage a rally with nearly 2000 highly skilled workers from around the country
Media awareness
Working with lawmakers
Admin fix campaign
2 year EAD
Working on Lofgren bills
Brought the entire community under one umbrella
Discussion forums - a source of knowledge
Tracking help
Folks - let us all be thankful that IV has been there for us. This is the best thing to happen to the community.
Please do not resist from contributing. It is diifficult for the first time, but once you do it - you will be happy.
Folks - look back at the situation beyond last year
Retrogression
Desi employer blood sucking
Labor issues
Companies closing down
No job promotions no salary hikes
CIR Draconian bill
Durbin Grassley bill
July fiasco
Look at the difference IV made
Constant grassroots lobbying - bringing awareness
Extreme dedication of all volunteers - kept IV going
Trust and faith - providing confidence and support
Hard work and faced criticism in a positive manner
Flower campaign during July fiasco - visa bulletin reversal
September 18th massive rally - first time IV could manage to stage a rally with nearly 2000 highly skilled workers from around the country
Media awareness
Working with lawmakers
Admin fix campaign
2 year EAD
Working on Lofgren bills
Brought the entire community under one umbrella
Discussion forums - a source of knowledge
Tracking help
Folks - let us all be thankful that IV has been there for us. This is the best thing to happen to the community.
Please do not resist from contributing. It is diifficult for the first time, but once you do it - you will be happy.
monkeyman
01-04 12:19 PM
I filed for my wife's AP on Oct 12th and TSC and received the AP on Nov 1. Applied for UK transit visa on Nov 8 and received that on Nov 14th.
more...
yabadaba
08-27 01:05 PM
since this last month has been one of the most frustrating in terms of any movement from any standpoint...thought i d write another op ed
==================================================
Where is my Ellis Island?
America is more than a country. It is an idea. It is the idea of freedom, liberty and justice for all. It is the idea that an immigrant with the determination, skills and the ability to work hard can make it. He or she can single handedly change the course of their generations to come.
I first read Jeffery Archer's Kane and Abel when I was 13. One of the most powerful images that the book conjured up for me was the day young Abel Rosonovski after facing years of hardship and seeing the collapse of the Polish dynasty, manages to get to America. Archer describes is great detail how Abel looks at the Statue of Liberty with tears in his eyes. When he lands on Ellis Island there are two guards who make notations of everybody getting off the boat and following a medical exam he is welcomed into America. Not as a temporary worker, not given an H1B, not given a temporary asylum status, but is welcomed as a full fledged American Citizen into the United States of America.
Today, things are not the same. I agree that I did not have to endure years of civil war or ethnic strife, but my reason for moving to the US was just like every American's grandfather, great grandfather or great-great grandfather. In essence it was to ensure a better life for me and for my future generations. My great grandchild will someday talk about how her grandfather moved here, put himself through graduate school and tried to build a better life. Her story will be the same as every other American's.
However, today I saw a letter being circulated by the anti immigration groups asking their congressman to oppose a bill proposed by Rep. John Shadegg of Arizona. This bill provides relief to millions of us who are stuck in limbo because of the worst set of immigration policies for educated immigrants in the civilized world. What makes me rethink my American dream is not that restrictionists like Lou Dobbs are against this bill but because what is being circulated is plain lies.
They claim that persons on H1B does not pay taxes, bring in millions of family members and produce thousands of “anchor babies.” This is the same set of lies being touted by Tancredo and his creed. Under the H1-B visa we are not exempt from any taxes that are charged by the IRS. In fact most sensible and informed law-makers have agreed that this is almost discriminatory because under a work visa we cannot avail of any benefit that the social security program provides for.
The other thing that makes me question my decision of being in America is the anchor babies’ statement. This statement reeks of xenophobia. It goes against everything that this country stands for. It is a slap in the face for the drafters of the 14th amendment. If my baby is an anchor baby, then every single American is also an anchor baby. By calling American children of immigrants "anchor babies" these restrictionists have defiled the entire premise of America. In immigrant circles, where people understand the process of immigration, this is seen as the "maccaca" moment for organizations like Numbers USA.
Its time the restrictionists and the American public decide once and for all what they want from the immigrants. If you do not want us here, provide Tancredo and his creed with the tools to go ahead and build a mile high wall on the southern border, eliminate all temporary visa programs and close down any legal avenues for people to come here.
If you consider that we provide value, subsidize your taxes by paying into the Social Security program, are an important part of your community and that we help stimulate the economy through taxes and buying power, then provide Rep. John Shadegg with the power to pass the Skill Bill.
In any case end our misery and let us know what you want. This way we can go about our lives.
yabadaba
IV member
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published on Dec 20
http://news.ncmonline.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=7b1a82abac88e4509c386 03143688521
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==================================================
Where is my Ellis Island?
America is more than a country. It is an idea. It is the idea of freedom, liberty and justice for all. It is the idea that an immigrant with the determination, skills and the ability to work hard can make it. He or she can single handedly change the course of their generations to come.
I first read Jeffery Archer's Kane and Abel when I was 13. One of the most powerful images that the book conjured up for me was the day young Abel Rosonovski after facing years of hardship and seeing the collapse of the Polish dynasty, manages to get to America. Archer describes is great detail how Abel looks at the Statue of Liberty with tears in his eyes. When he lands on Ellis Island there are two guards who make notations of everybody getting off the boat and following a medical exam he is welcomed into America. Not as a temporary worker, not given an H1B, not given a temporary asylum status, but is welcomed as a full fledged American Citizen into the United States of America.
Today, things are not the same. I agree that I did not have to endure years of civil war or ethnic strife, but my reason for moving to the US was just like every American's grandfather, great grandfather or great-great grandfather. In essence it was to ensure a better life for me and for my future generations. My great grandchild will someday talk about how her grandfather moved here, put himself through graduate school and tried to build a better life. Her story will be the same as every other American's.
However, today I saw a letter being circulated by the anti immigration groups asking their congressman to oppose a bill proposed by Rep. John Shadegg of Arizona. This bill provides relief to millions of us who are stuck in limbo because of the worst set of immigration policies for educated immigrants in the civilized world. What makes me rethink my American dream is not that restrictionists like Lou Dobbs are against this bill but because what is being circulated is plain lies.
They claim that persons on H1B does not pay taxes, bring in millions of family members and produce thousands of “anchor babies.” This is the same set of lies being touted by Tancredo and his creed. Under the H1-B visa we are not exempt from any taxes that are charged by the IRS. In fact most sensible and informed law-makers have agreed that this is almost discriminatory because under a work visa we cannot avail of any benefit that the social security program provides for.
The other thing that makes me question my decision of being in America is the anchor babies’ statement. This statement reeks of xenophobia. It goes against everything that this country stands for. It is a slap in the face for the drafters of the 14th amendment. If my baby is an anchor baby, then every single American is also an anchor baby. By calling American children of immigrants "anchor babies" these restrictionists have defiled the entire premise of America. In immigrant circles, where people understand the process of immigration, this is seen as the "maccaca" moment for organizations like Numbers USA.
Its time the restrictionists and the American public decide once and for all what they want from the immigrants. If you do not want us here, provide Tancredo and his creed with the tools to go ahead and build a mile high wall on the southern border, eliminate all temporary visa programs and close down any legal avenues for people to come here.
If you consider that we provide value, subsidize your taxes by paying into the Social Security program, are an important part of your community and that we help stimulate the economy through taxes and buying power, then provide Rep. John Shadegg with the power to pass the Skill Bill.
In any case end our misery and let us know what you want. This way we can go about our lives.
yabadaba
IV member
==================
published on Dec 20
http://news.ncmonline.com/news/view_article.html?article_id=7b1a82abac88e4509c386 03143688521
==========
diptam
08-11 11:53 PM
Agree with you 100% - But Once you start a thread with assertive words peoples start relying on you.... I also posted lots of conversations between myself and USCIS but i was never assertive.
Anyway - this argument will go on forever.
Can we request SriKondoJi/likes not to post anything with strong Affirmative words unless they have some kind of confirmations beyond the general Public's assumption ??
Thanks
Hello,
I think this is high time for us to control our emotions and live with realities. Often times, the customer service representatives don't have up-to-date information of USCIS's policies, decisions, and announcements, and we should not take their response as granted. For example, If you call a service center 5 times a day and ask a same question, you will get five different answers. In fact, Srikondoji mentioned what he had heard from NSC customer service staff. So, we can blame neither Srikondoji, nor customer service staff, but only USCIS.:)
Regards,
IK
Anyway - this argument will go on forever.
Can we request SriKondoJi/likes not to post anything with strong Affirmative words unless they have some kind of confirmations beyond the general Public's assumption ??
Thanks
Hello,
I think this is high time for us to control our emotions and live with realities. Often times, the customer service representatives don't have up-to-date information of USCIS's policies, decisions, and announcements, and we should not take their response as granted. For example, If you call a service center 5 times a day and ask a same question, you will get five different answers. In fact, Srikondoji mentioned what he had heard from NSC customer service staff. So, we can blame neither Srikondoji, nor customer service staff, but only USCIS.:)
Regards,
IK
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cheg
07-23 05:53 PM
You're very observant. :) My husband depends on me to know our case. I'm H4 so all I do is read updates on immigration. I got addicted to IV! :D
I wonder what will happen with our cases. My husband has a PD Oct 2003, EB2 ROW, but thanks to PBEC, it got approved in Jan 2007. Our RD is March 2007, TSC, concurrent. Got AP in April and EAD in May. No LUD on 485 after FP, 04/25/2007.
One more question: How many wives are here? It looks like some guys would rather let this matter to the ladies to handle.:D
I wonder what will happen with our cases. My husband has a PD Oct 2003, EB2 ROW, but thanks to PBEC, it got approved in Jan 2007. Our RD is March 2007, TSC, concurrent. Got AP in April and EAD in May. No LUD on 485 after FP, 04/25/2007.
One more question: How many wives are here? It looks like some guys would rather let this matter to the ladies to handle.:D
andy007
07-18 12:12 AM
Labor PD: April 29, 2003 (EB3)
140 Approved Date:
140 approved from: NSC
Mailed to NSC: June 1st
Received at NSC: June 4th
Receipt Date : June 5, 2007 This is what everybody gets now ........
Approved I485: Notice date : June 18, 2007
FP Appointment: July 11, 2007
I-485 : PENDING
140 Approved Date:
140 approved from: NSC
Mailed to NSC: June 1st
Received at NSC: June 4th
Receipt Date : June 5, 2007 This is what everybody gets now ........
Approved I485: Notice date : June 18, 2007
FP Appointment: July 11, 2007
I-485 : PENDING
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om5454
01-22 12:28 AM
I was going thru your question, I am kind of in the same boat. My PD is Jan'04 in EB3. Filed 485 for self and wife in Jul'07.
Did you get answer to your question ?
Did you get answer to your question ?
inskrish
08-17 03:12 AM
Looking at the recent approvals looks like USCIS does the following:
1. Pick up x number of files using a random algorithm.
2. Arrange these files in a random order using the same random algorithm
followed in step 1.
3. Randomly pick any file arranged in step 2.
4. Toss a coin.
5. On odd dates if it is heads,approve the file. On even dates if it is tails
approve it.
6. If file is not approved in step 5 put it on the shelf to be picked up
in step 1 in next cycle.
For Disclaimers: on step (1), x is also a random number, and the coin used on step (4) by USCIS may sometimes have neither tail nor head..:D
1. Pick up x number of files using a random algorithm.
2. Arrange these files in a random order using the same random algorithm
followed in step 1.
3. Randomly pick any file arranged in step 2.
4. Toss a coin.
5. On odd dates if it is heads,approve the file. On even dates if it is tails
approve it.
6. If file is not approved in step 5 put it on the shelf to be picked up
in step 1 in next cycle.
For Disclaimers: on step (1), x is also a random number, and the coin used on step (4) by USCIS may sometimes have neither tail nor head..:D
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Libra
09-10 04:44 PM
thanks madhuri and rajusk for contributions. we love to see you guys in DC. hope you can make it. thanks.
Pineapple
01-07 12:13 AM
raysaikat, and others, can we call a truce and focus on the original intent of the thread? I am sure we can all agree that the top 5 % of the worst university (does not matter which, or where) are usually better than the bottom 5 % of the best university (again, does not matter).
In my life, in our company, I've seen some of the sharpest brains around (PhDs working for the Russian defence before they defected in late 70's and early 80's) and some of the dumbest (a mechanical engineer who refused to believe me when I mentioned the sun was approximately 300000 bigger than the earth in terms of mass and 1000000 times bigger in terms of volume). Believe it or not, I've met a taxi driver who graduated from an Ivy League institution and used to work at NASA in 60s and 70s and worked on developing algorithms for decompressing transmissions. There are all sorts who make the world a pretty interesting, if unpredictable place. :)
You never know whom you are sitting next to on the plane! ;)
Rather than arguing over silly matters, perhaps we should focus on intelligent analysis and if necessary, rebuttal of arguments.
We do not prove anything by arguing over IIT vs Osmania, or North Vs South, but merely conform the worst aspects of Prof. Wadhwa's sweeping generalizations.
I, for one, have serious questions:
A) The video was edited. It is a collection of sound bites. How do we know the context of the statements if we do not have the full transcript?
B) We have no visuals of the charts and figures referred to by Prof Wadhwa.
C) We have no access to the raw data used by Prof. Wadhwa. He may had published it, but I have not seen any of it. (Unless Macaca can ferret out the details.. if anyone can, he is the man!). I have, for instance, basic questions whether immigrants and foreign students were excluded when he (Wadhwa) was counting the openings filled and engineers graduated in US.
I do not mean to offend anyone, nor am I commenting on any country, university, or anything.. so please do not misunderstand me. Let us focus on the what is more important.
In my life, in our company, I've seen some of the sharpest brains around (PhDs working for the Russian defence before they defected in late 70's and early 80's) and some of the dumbest (a mechanical engineer who refused to believe me when I mentioned the sun was approximately 300000 bigger than the earth in terms of mass and 1000000 times bigger in terms of volume). Believe it or not, I've met a taxi driver who graduated from an Ivy League institution and used to work at NASA in 60s and 70s and worked on developing algorithms for decompressing transmissions. There are all sorts who make the world a pretty interesting, if unpredictable place. :)
You never know whom you are sitting next to on the plane! ;)
Rather than arguing over silly matters, perhaps we should focus on intelligent analysis and if necessary, rebuttal of arguments.
We do not prove anything by arguing over IIT vs Osmania, or North Vs South, but merely conform the worst aspects of Prof. Wadhwa's sweeping generalizations.
I, for one, have serious questions:
A) The video was edited. It is a collection of sound bites. How do we know the context of the statements if we do not have the full transcript?
B) We have no visuals of the charts and figures referred to by Prof Wadhwa.
C) We have no access to the raw data used by Prof. Wadhwa. He may had published it, but I have not seen any of it. (Unless Macaca can ferret out the details.. if anyone can, he is the man!). I have, for instance, basic questions whether immigrants and foreign students were excluded when he (Wadhwa) was counting the openings filled and engineers graduated in US.
I do not mean to offend anyone, nor am I commenting on any country, university, or anything.. so please do not misunderstand me. Let us focus on the what is more important.
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pappu
08-12 10:57 AM
Senate just passed the border bill which also applies the new 50-50 rule with additional fee for companies having employees on H1/L1 visa.
The bill is now headed for President's signature for making this the law of the land.
The bill is now headed for President's signature for making this the law of the land.
vnandster
03-12 05:07 PM
I too received RFE for 485 yesterday...let's see what they need now.
Last time they needed photos for AP (which I had already sent)
Last time they needed photos for AP (which I had already sent)
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ho_gaya_kaya_?
07-14 01:43 PM
Excellent idea
vinabath
05-01 02:33 PM
We pay tons of fees to USCIS
The fee we pay is very less compare to what we pay to Attorneys. And USCIS cannot drastically increase fees. And we are stuck. That is the reality.
I think we should cut a check of same amount what we pay to attorneys.
The fee we pay is very less compare to what we pay to Attorneys. And USCIS cannot drastically increase fees. And we are stuck. That is the reality.
I think we should cut a check of same amount what we pay to attorneys.
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Marphad
03-03 01:39 PM
i just hope it moves by 1-2 months...so at that rate..we can be certain that they know what they are doing.
somebody should sue USCIS for transperancy!
Actually you and I are "somebody" too!
somebody should sue USCIS for transperancy!
Actually you and I are "somebody" too!
champak3
06-16 10:42 AM
If you are stuck at Atlanta PERM backlog center , please email your case number and explain them that your application has been pending for a LONG time and request them to help us get out of this grave situation. Also, please post on this thread after you have sent an email so that others can be motivated to do the same. We need to send as many emails as possible to get any positive feedback. I know that DOL mentioned that they will start processing our applications soon, but we need to keep up the pressure from our end so that it has some positive effect.
I know most of the people on this forum are not in this situation ..... but let's see how many can come out of this selfishness and help others by emailing / phoning DOL Atlanta to help other brothers who want to file AOS just like them...... When phone campaigns / email campaigns happen .... we who are stuck at Atlanta help others tooo... so let's see how many on this form help us now...
Here is the info :
email : Perm.DFLC@dol.gov
Phone : 404-893-0101
Thanks
Champak (Same as 1 and 2)
====================
First there was celebration by Atlanta center people and BEC people when visa fiasco happened. They rejoiced that since they cannot file I485, others should not be able to do so too as if this is some divine justice. When this was not sick enough, threads started blaming IV not caring for its members. (BTW this thread is started by a member who is anonymous and has been a known heckler and has posted offensive messages about IV in the past). Then there are emails being sent.
If you think spamming DOL and others with anonymous emails will help, you are wrong. I am seeing lots of emails from people with sender names like 'big_cat' , 'aabbccddeeffgg' etc etc talking about this 'huge injustice' and saying that Atlanta problem affecting 'millions of people' and that this is 'not what forefathers of America dreamt of'. Not even a single person wrote such emails with their name, address and phone number and a case number for someone to act on it. I hope highly skilled and intelligent people of this community use their intelligence when they write such emails. If you are so scared that you cannot even go and meet anyone, so scared that you cannot even write your name, address and phone number in your mail , do you think anyone will take you seriously? The emails core got from its members are also mostly anonymous and some went to the extent of telling core to only focus on Atlanta Perm because this is the 'real' issue.
If IV core was to take such anonymity approach in our advocacy efforts, IV would have been just a spammer organization and nothing else.
If you like to dwell in the shadows then just support IV and let us do our advocacy efforts. Or join an organization for illegals instead of Immigrationvoice. With our efforts and success 'everyone' will benefit. Have patience and faith.
- Pappu
====================
I know most of the people on this forum are not in this situation ..... but let's see how many can come out of this selfishness and help others by emailing / phoning DOL Atlanta to help other brothers who want to file AOS just like them...... When phone campaigns / email campaigns happen .... we who are stuck at Atlanta help others tooo... so let's see how many on this form help us now...
Here is the info :
email : Perm.DFLC@dol.gov
Phone : 404-893-0101
Thanks
Champak (Same as 1 and 2)
====================
First there was celebration by Atlanta center people and BEC people when visa fiasco happened. They rejoiced that since they cannot file I485, others should not be able to do so too as if this is some divine justice. When this was not sick enough, threads started blaming IV not caring for its members. (BTW this thread is started by a member who is anonymous and has been a known heckler and has posted offensive messages about IV in the past). Then there are emails being sent.
If you think spamming DOL and others with anonymous emails will help, you are wrong. I am seeing lots of emails from people with sender names like 'big_cat' , 'aabbccddeeffgg' etc etc talking about this 'huge injustice' and saying that Atlanta problem affecting 'millions of people' and that this is 'not what forefathers of America dreamt of'. Not even a single person wrote such emails with their name, address and phone number and a case number for someone to act on it. I hope highly skilled and intelligent people of this community use their intelligence when they write such emails. If you are so scared that you cannot even go and meet anyone, so scared that you cannot even write your name, address and phone number in your mail , do you think anyone will take you seriously? The emails core got from its members are also mostly anonymous and some went to the extent of telling core to only focus on Atlanta Perm because this is the 'real' issue.
If IV core was to take such anonymity approach in our advocacy efforts, IV would have been just a spammer organization and nothing else.
If you like to dwell in the shadows then just support IV and let us do our advocacy efforts. Or join an organization for illegals instead of Immigrationvoice. With our efforts and success 'everyone' will benefit. Have patience and faith.
- Pappu
====================
indio0617
03-09 11:29 AM
Is this employment authorization re: the EADs we get, or employment authorization in general for immigrants?
No. it was talk about validating employment for legal immigrants at the workplace. I-9 etc... They just worded it as "Employment authorization"
It is not about our EAD
No. it was talk about validating employment for legal immigrants at the workplace. I-9 etc... They just worded it as "Employment authorization"
It is not about our EAD
vin13
03-12 04:20 PM
As much as I appreciate the efforts that the IV core team has put in, them being so secretive, it is almost like they have formed a cabal.
I agree with ItIsNotFunny. The very least the IV core team can do is post updates on what they are up to. That way if someone believes in a particular initiative that IV is undertaking wants to help, they can contact the concerned IV core team member and offer to help.
I am sure instead of the core team trying to burden themselves with all the work, if they let individuals who believe in particular cause to help them, then life would be a lot easier for everyone. I guess that would also get more people involved with IV.
I know I am out of the rat race, so if you think I am being patronizing, my apologies.
I agree with you. I admire your involvement with this effort even after you got your GC.
I agree with ItIsNotFunny. The very least the IV core team can do is post updates on what they are up to. That way if someone believes in a particular initiative that IV is undertaking wants to help, they can contact the concerned IV core team member and offer to help.
I am sure instead of the core team trying to burden themselves with all the work, if they let individuals who believe in particular cause to help them, then life would be a lot easier for everyone. I guess that would also get more people involved with IV.
I know I am out of the rat race, so if you think I am being patronizing, my apologies.
I agree with you. I admire your involvement with this effort even after you got your GC.
smuggymba
08-12 03:01 PM
yawnnnnnnnn...... i'm waiting for someone to start attacking & blaming others for this...... something like andra v/s tamil or north v/s south india fight..... when r we going to start that..... i'm ready with a box of popcorn to enjoy that "debate"..... lets add some masala to this.... otherwise its boring.....
didn't u get ur GC by now with a Feb 05 PD? Spare us man.
didn't u get ur GC by now with a Feb 05 PD? Spare us man.
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