amdn123
09-10 02:01 PM
I guess we have till September 30 to hope for approval.
PD Nov 2005.
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gc_dedo
08-11 04:31 PM
This message is on Ron Gotcher forum
I continue to hear reports from sources I consider credible that the CIS is putting on a major push to clean up the I-140 backlogs. If this is true, look for a lot of I--140 approvals soon and a return to premium processing shortly thereafter.
Link (http://immigration-information.com/forums/showpost.php?p=21675)
I continue to hear reports from sources I consider credible that the CIS is putting on a major push to clean up the I-140 backlogs. If this is true, look for a lot of I--140 approvals soon and a return to premium processing shortly thereafter.
Link (http://immigration-information.com/forums/showpost.php?p=21675)
gomirage
07-20 01:51 PM
i was thinking the same thing did we take our eyes off the ball. Seems like people towed the part line during the vote but it still seems like a miss
Yes, I was also thinking how did IV radar screen missed such an important vote. I hope it's not because we were so busy celebrating I-485.
I hate to think a call to few senators would have fixed the whole problem to everybody. Please lets refocus guys on a permanent fix.
Yes, I was also thinking how did IV radar screen missed such an important vote. I hope it's not because we were so busy celebrating I-485.
I hate to think a call to few senators would have fixed the whole problem to everybody. Please lets refocus guys on a permanent fix.
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09-10 03:17 PM
If you are seeing Light at the end of the tunnel (visa recapture), beware, It could be another train (almight uscis can ruin anything) approaching from other side of the tunnel.
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indyyy
04-11 03:02 PM
No, unfortunatelly, there are many thousands like me.
PD - Nov 2001, regular, EB2 - No 45 day letter yet - How about that ?
PD - Nov 2001, regular, EB2 - No 45 day letter yet - How about that ?
lonedesi
08-12 04:04 PM
The answer is "No" - my employer is also not willing to sign that form. They are saying that its against their policy to push Ombudsman or CIS for a I-140 which is pending for 15 months.
They are saying that the only thing they can do for me is "opening a service request" after 60 days of "Processing Date Update" Now Processing Date update is stuck @ Mar 22nd 2007 for last 4 months , so they are happy they are not obligated to do that either.
This is a huge Pain because 140 is actually employer petition and we are beneficiaries.
Lonedesi - Please advise, I'm ready to mail just the letter to CIS Ombudsman.
As mentioned in my previous post (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=274156&postcount=32), it would not be of much help without completed DHS Form 7001.
If all you can do is send a letter, then be prepared to just receive a general response from the Ombudsman's office. They will never be able to look into your specific case and see if there are any reason for the delay in processing your case. They may not be obligated to specifically address this problem for us. They can just send you a standard response and move on without actually helping you.
Given your situation, I think you may as well take a chance and send the letter including all the details(A#, receipt numbers etc) provided on the DHS Form in your letter, so that they can atleast look into your case, if they want to.
They are saying that the only thing they can do for me is "opening a service request" after 60 days of "Processing Date Update" Now Processing Date update is stuck @ Mar 22nd 2007 for last 4 months , so they are happy they are not obligated to do that either.
This is a huge Pain because 140 is actually employer petition and we are beneficiaries.
Lonedesi - Please advise, I'm ready to mail just the letter to CIS Ombudsman.
As mentioned in my previous post (http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showpost.php?p=274156&postcount=32), it would not be of much help without completed DHS Form 7001.
If all you can do is send a letter, then be prepared to just receive a general response from the Ombudsman's office. They will never be able to look into your specific case and see if there are any reason for the delay in processing your case. They may not be obligated to specifically address this problem for us. They can just send you a standard response and move on without actually helping you.
Given your situation, I think you may as well take a chance and send the letter including all the details(A#, receipt numbers etc) provided on the DHS Form in your letter, so that they can atleast look into your case, if they want to.
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logiclife
03-13 01:35 PM
DUI and DWI are crimes that can get your greencard petition in trouble even today.
The only thing today, that will not jeopardize your Greencard application is minor traffic violations. DUI and DWI and not minor traffic violations.
These amendments are only enhancing it to DEPORT those who are found driving drunk. The irony is, if you are an immigrant either illegal waiting for amnesty or legal waiting for your labor/485, you are more likely to need a drink or two.
--logiclife.
The only thing today, that will not jeopardize your Greencard application is minor traffic violations. DUI and DWI and not minor traffic violations.
These amendments are only enhancing it to DEPORT those who are found driving drunk. The irony is, if you are an immigrant either illegal waiting for amnesty or legal waiting for your labor/485, you are more likely to need a drink or two.
--logiclife.
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sri1309
03-12 11:50 AM
Not true. Anybody donates will get Donor status. This is started for last few days, so people who donated in last few days get this. Pappu mentioned that he is planning to cross reference this with old donations but not sure whats happening there.
Pappu,
In that case I have sent $100 about an year back, and the memo section does say my account name as "sri1309". It was sent by Money order. Can you please change my status as Donor. I like that.
Also I posted one thread just now "lets start writing to Zoe".. Can you please let me know if there is some moderation step which is taking time. Earlier it used to be instantly posted.
ItsFunny,
Thanks,
Pappu,
In that case I have sent $100 about an year back, and the memo section does say my account name as "sri1309". It was sent by Money order. Can you please change my status as Donor. I like that.
Also I posted one thread just now "lets start writing to Zoe".. Can you please let me know if there is some moderation step which is taking time. Earlier it used to be instantly posted.
ItsFunny,
Thanks,
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cygent
09-02 08:04 PM
Oh man! Landed here in 1998. But your PD is 2008 and IN EB3?!?!? Originally Posted by kalinga_sena
* Landed here on jan 1st, 1998 (F1)
Survived 2 recessions
No hope as labour filled in eb3
You must be the oldest person in this thread as well. :D
In my signature... 13 yrs.; '97 as student, survived 2 recessions & a huge bloodsucker from '00 (who has since been sued & investigated & closed). Tried to leave, but H1 issues kept me. By Luck, hard work & planning managed to file 140/485 in '07 & by God's grace 140 approved 12/08, which enabled me to leave aforementioned bloodsucker. Working on EAD since 10/08.
* Landed here on jan 1st, 1998 (F1)
Survived 2 recessions
No hope as labour filled in eb3
You must be the oldest person in this thread as well. :D
In my signature... 13 yrs.; '97 as student, survived 2 recessions & a huge bloodsucker from '00 (who has since been sued & investigated & closed). Tried to leave, but H1 issues kept me. By Luck, hard work & planning managed to file 140/485 in '07 & by God's grace 140 approved 12/08, which enabled me to leave aforementioned bloodsucker. Working on EAD since 10/08.
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08-10 01:19 PM
What are you smoking?? Its Aug 10 today..
Diluted drinks wont help you - Have " straight up "...
Its August 12th today and we are really screwed
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Its August 12th today and we are really screwed
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bobzibub
06-11 04:04 PM
I keep reading we should fight for out rights and all. I am just curious
where does it say if on is on H1B or F1, he or she has a right to get a GC. GC or citizenship is a privilege, we cant demand it or force someone to give it to us. Its a simple demand and supply situation, there are more visa seekers then there is availability and therefore there is a waiting period. i am not sure why we don't accept the simple fact that there are way too many people from developing country like ours moving to US, and not everyone can be accommodated ASAP. i think US has every right to do what it thinks is best for her, even if we don't agree with that,
And those who say its discrimination, discrimination is when people from Bihar are beaten up on the streets of mumbai cause they are taking jobs away from marathi manus. Had there been so many techies from around the world taking up jobs in India, we would have seen street lynching.
People don't come here to work for someone else. They come to work for themselves (and eventually) hire Americans. If USCIS released their internal data as they've been asked and the numbers show that you've got to wait two decades for a green card, that is tantamount to them hanging a sign saying: "We don't serve Indians; We don't serve Chinese." They might as well just close and wind down operations.
People come for economic opportunity, and economic opportunity when you work for someone else is limited. Certainly less than in Canada, India and China when you work for yourself. People bring their creativity and ideas and hard work and the US benefits immensely from this skilled labour pool. They've also come because USCIS has put the foot ball in front of them, only to pull it back after we're years into the process.
A sign saying "We don't serve Indians or Chinese" *is* discrimination. But I would also use the word "fraud" for that is what it is: We paid for an advertised service. We spent years waiting for that service. We did not get that service. Pretty simple.
where does it say if on is on H1B or F1, he or she has a right to get a GC. GC or citizenship is a privilege, we cant demand it or force someone to give it to us. Its a simple demand and supply situation, there are more visa seekers then there is availability and therefore there is a waiting period. i am not sure why we don't accept the simple fact that there are way too many people from developing country like ours moving to US, and not everyone can be accommodated ASAP. i think US has every right to do what it thinks is best for her, even if we don't agree with that,
And those who say its discrimination, discrimination is when people from Bihar are beaten up on the streets of mumbai cause they are taking jobs away from marathi manus. Had there been so many techies from around the world taking up jobs in India, we would have seen street lynching.
People don't come here to work for someone else. They come to work for themselves (and eventually) hire Americans. If USCIS released their internal data as they've been asked and the numbers show that you've got to wait two decades for a green card, that is tantamount to them hanging a sign saying: "We don't serve Indians; We don't serve Chinese." They might as well just close and wind down operations.
People come for economic opportunity, and economic opportunity when you work for someone else is limited. Certainly less than in Canada, India and China when you work for yourself. People bring their creativity and ideas and hard work and the US benefits immensely from this skilled labour pool. They've also come because USCIS has put the foot ball in front of them, only to pull it back after we're years into the process.
A sign saying "We don't serve Indians or Chinese" *is* discrimination. But I would also use the word "fraud" for that is what it is: We paid for an advertised service. We spent years waiting for that service. We did not get that service. Pretty simple.
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pmpforgc
03-07 10:44 AM
This post is not entirely true.. I have never seen an college(recognized by AICTE) where u will pass only by paying fees.
There are issues in india , but i have seen many people going back , and settling without any problems. The choice to move is more personal , then what could be discussed here ..
I was in India recently for a 2 months vacation, and some work from our Indian office,. First few days were tough , lot of dust , traffic , pollution, But after 2 weeks i was loving it the old way .. and when i was flying back i realized I love Delhi .
If you own a house in the major cities ( ie lot of jobs and business opportunities) then going back makes sense. But if you belong to a small city , and have to move to a bigger city anyway, then living here makes more sense.
The reality (which is bad) is that if you have money in india , your life style is much better than what u have in US (dont forget , even earning 100K, doesn't really make u rich here , Honda and Toyota are poor people's car in US.. I have seen very few EB applicants driving a BMV,Bentley)
When i was in India, i went to best hotels for food (2000Rs buffets) virtually every week.,just went to NY once for a 200$ buffet, in 6 years.
So everyone has to take a personal decision, based on personal factors..
I would agree with most of what you said that it is personal issue and personal choice. if you feel here homesick then better to go home at the earliest.
I toally dis-agree with you in terms of education issue. I am in education field since I was born (as a student and as faculty both in India and US) so I had seen closely both sides of the coins. Our education system in India is detoriating day by day with no quality control on private institutions and no nation wide approach for QUALITY of education. We have made education available to every one (mostly !!) but during that process we have made it to go in to the tank. With few good institutions among the thousands of colleges and universities does not make it good quality. Percentage of below standard education institution are increasing day by day. Each time I go back home and see how the education is detoriating, I feel deeply sorry about state of education in India. Opening college in every village and giving degree to every one who wants does not make good education. In old days we were giving those degrees to only one those deserve it and can earn it. That is why our old mass of graduates was highly acclaimed all over world. Now a days our average scientist and engineers ( I am not talking about all high quality one from population of billion !!) is very poor.
Also just to Add here same AICTE who approves technical colleges in India, Its DIRECTOR in CHIEF was under govt investigation of messive corruption in the approval process of the institutions.
So dont feel so good about CURRENT and FUTURE education system in India, unless we try to improove the QUALITY issue of our technical graduates at put it AHEAD of QUANTITY OF GRADUATES
There are issues in india , but i have seen many people going back , and settling without any problems. The choice to move is more personal , then what could be discussed here ..
I was in India recently for a 2 months vacation, and some work from our Indian office,. First few days were tough , lot of dust , traffic , pollution, But after 2 weeks i was loving it the old way .. and when i was flying back i realized I love Delhi .
If you own a house in the major cities ( ie lot of jobs and business opportunities) then going back makes sense. But if you belong to a small city , and have to move to a bigger city anyway, then living here makes more sense.
The reality (which is bad) is that if you have money in india , your life style is much better than what u have in US (dont forget , even earning 100K, doesn't really make u rich here , Honda and Toyota are poor people's car in US.. I have seen very few EB applicants driving a BMV,Bentley)
When i was in India, i went to best hotels for food (2000Rs buffets) virtually every week.,just went to NY once for a 200$ buffet, in 6 years.
So everyone has to take a personal decision, based on personal factors..
I would agree with most of what you said that it is personal issue and personal choice. if you feel here homesick then better to go home at the earliest.
I toally dis-agree with you in terms of education issue. I am in education field since I was born (as a student and as faculty both in India and US) so I had seen closely both sides of the coins. Our education system in India is detoriating day by day with no quality control on private institutions and no nation wide approach for QUALITY of education. We have made education available to every one (mostly !!) but during that process we have made it to go in to the tank. With few good institutions among the thousands of colleges and universities does not make it good quality. Percentage of below standard education institution are increasing day by day. Each time I go back home and see how the education is detoriating, I feel deeply sorry about state of education in India. Opening college in every village and giving degree to every one who wants does not make good education. In old days we were giving those degrees to only one those deserve it and can earn it. That is why our old mass of graduates was highly acclaimed all over world. Now a days our average scientist and engineers ( I am not talking about all high quality one from population of billion !!) is very poor.
Also just to Add here same AICTE who approves technical colleges in India, Its DIRECTOR in CHIEF was under govt investigation of messive corruption in the approval process of the institutions.
So dont feel so good about CURRENT and FUTURE education system in India, unless we try to improove the QUALITY issue of our technical graduates at put it AHEAD of QUANTITY OF GRADUATES
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Sunx_2004
05-13 11:44 PM
This is strange, They are saying your I 140 get denied on the date it was approved...
What was the result of second MTR, Is that dismissed too...
I have EAD which expires on 07/30/2010. I have AP which expires on 10/29/2009
What was the result of second MTR, Is that dismissed too...
I have EAD which expires on 07/30/2010. I have AP which expires on 10/29/2009
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krishnam70
07-20 04:08 PM
She recently announced in her campaign that she will increase the H1B visas
She also made a statement that she will try for more benefits for permanent residents.
She does not want to support only the people who are in the process of immigration???
Whats up with that.
May be she is afraid of Lou Dobbs...Recently he has been criticizing her for her Indian ties
or may be she is pro Rich Indian Americans ... this might sound ridiculous but her voting ney is crazy
They always comment about us stealing the middle class jobs...tell me one case where they don't prefer US citizen over immigrant.
I have been interviewing for couple of companies ...the first question they ask is ...Are you US citizen 2nd question r u Permanent resident ..no..
Then we are sorry.
Companies do not prefer US citizens over Immigrants...I don't know where this misconception comes in to play...
There was a guy in our office who used to complain about Chineese and Indians stealing jobs...Believe he is a big slacker ..he recently got fired...people like him form these programmers guilds.
We do not work for less and we are not paid less...may be they deduct our Gc expenses but not much
Why is there a misconception about us?
Lets get this thought out of these bone heads
We are not middle class job stealers...We are the building blocks of a strong middle class
proves that she is a double talker and just wants money. When the time comes to get in front of the Indian community she sweet talks about the values and hardworking nature of the community and swears to support the community and immigrants and takes in Huge contributions. Time to vote on major efforts that do help the community really and she votes 'no' obviously its her nature to double talk and some talk show hosts have rightly identified that and drill her on that. I think its time we showed to the clintons and all those who failed us this time that our community does count and we are going to make it felt.
She also made a statement that she will try for more benefits for permanent residents.
She does not want to support only the people who are in the process of immigration???
Whats up with that.
May be she is afraid of Lou Dobbs...Recently he has been criticizing her for her Indian ties
or may be she is pro Rich Indian Americans ... this might sound ridiculous but her voting ney is crazy
They always comment about us stealing the middle class jobs...tell me one case where they don't prefer US citizen over immigrant.
I have been interviewing for couple of companies ...the first question they ask is ...Are you US citizen 2nd question r u Permanent resident ..no..
Then we are sorry.
Companies do not prefer US citizens over Immigrants...I don't know where this misconception comes in to play...
There was a guy in our office who used to complain about Chineese and Indians stealing jobs...Believe he is a big slacker ..he recently got fired...people like him form these programmers guilds.
We do not work for less and we are not paid less...may be they deduct our Gc expenses but not much
Why is there a misconception about us?
Lets get this thought out of these bone heads
We are not middle class job stealers...We are the building blocks of a strong middle class
proves that she is a double talker and just wants money. When the time comes to get in front of the Indian community she sweet talks about the values and hardworking nature of the community and swears to support the community and immigrants and takes in Huge contributions. Time to vote on major efforts that do help the community really and she votes 'no' obviously its her nature to double talk and some talk show hosts have rightly identified that and drill her on that. I think its time we showed to the clintons and all those who failed us this time that our community does count and we are going to make it felt.
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2BeeNot2Bee
09-14 06:45 PM
If Substution labor was ethical, PD porting from EB3 to EB2 is ethical.
Ithink PD Porting might be legal at this time but not ETHICAL.
If substitution was unethical, July 07 out-of-turn PD flood which has created a HUGE backlog is unethical, if that is unethical, PD porting is also unethical.
Ithink PD Porting might be legal at this time but not ETHICAL.
If substitution was unethical, July 07 out-of-turn PD flood which has created a HUGE backlog is unethical, if that is unethical, PD porting is also unethical.
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gctoget
07-30 07:29 PM
gctoget, we are actually 39 members now. 24 is the new members that have joined since a week back. If you look at the members section on our yahoo groups we have more. Keep joining folks, we have become very active.
Sorry about that Drona. "39 members" .....that sounds great!!!:)
Sorry about that Drona. "39 members" .....that sounds great!!!:)
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07-20 04:35 PM
NUMBERS USA Analysis opposing this bill-
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addsf345
11-12 02:07 PM
Found some interesting explanation about New interpretations on section 245(k). This has 180 days tolerance even if you continue work without legal status when in confusion, like the one you asked for.
LINK: http://indiapost.com/article/immigration/3783/
"The Memo also contemplates the applicability of Section 245(k) with respect to a second adjustment of status application. For example, an alien filed Form I-485 while in H-1B status, the H-1B status expired and the H-1B status was not renewed because of the pending I-485 application and the EAD allowed the alien to remain in the US and continue working. Suppose this I-485 application is denied, and the alien finds that he or she is out status.
If the adjustment application was denied within 180 days of the expiration of the underlying H-1B status, it may be possible for this alien to file a new adjustment of status application under Section 245(k) claiming that the violation was for less than 180 days."
I don't know what happens to EAD when 485 is denied (some says it remains valid) but looks like you get 180 days to fight using an MTR.
Gurus, please disect this if what I understood is true?
found answer on Ron Gotcher's website: ONE CAN CONTUNUE WORKING ON EAD (http://immigration-information.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25197&postcount=3) according to this post.
LINK: http://indiapost.com/article/immigration/3783/
"The Memo also contemplates the applicability of Section 245(k) with respect to a second adjustment of status application. For example, an alien filed Form I-485 while in H-1B status, the H-1B status expired and the H-1B status was not renewed because of the pending I-485 application and the EAD allowed the alien to remain in the US and continue working. Suppose this I-485 application is denied, and the alien finds that he or she is out status.
If the adjustment application was denied within 180 days of the expiration of the underlying H-1B status, it may be possible for this alien to file a new adjustment of status application under Section 245(k) claiming that the violation was for less than 180 days."
I don't know what happens to EAD when 485 is denied (some says it remains valid) but looks like you get 180 days to fight using an MTR.
Gurus, please disect this if what I understood is true?
found answer on Ron Gotcher's website: ONE CAN CONTUNUE WORKING ON EAD (http://immigration-information.com/forums/showpost.php?p=25197&postcount=3) according to this post.
user2005
01-05 05:26 PM
It tracks the statuses of around 1800 people....
http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?p=1392408#post1392408
This seems to be very extensive tracker. Based on this data, we can make a close analysis of Philadelphia BPC.
In RIR queue, they are currently certifying applications with PD of Sep 2004. We can find some cases with PD later than Sep 04 with status Certified. Those are either lucky ones or those who already reached from SWA to DOL before ended up in BPC. We can find many cases with PD earlier than Sep 04 with status Letter Received. I do not have strong explanation. Those could be either pending in data review or ones who did not care to update their tracking info after being certified or unlucky ones :confused:
In Regular (TR) queue, they are still certifying ones that came from DOL.:mad:
http://www.immigrationportal.com/showthread.php?p=1392408#post1392408
This seems to be very extensive tracker. Based on this data, we can make a close analysis of Philadelphia BPC.
In RIR queue, they are currently certifying applications with PD of Sep 2004. We can find some cases with PD later than Sep 04 with status Certified. Those are either lucky ones or those who already reached from SWA to DOL before ended up in BPC. We can find many cases with PD earlier than Sep 04 with status Letter Received. I do not have strong explanation. Those could be either pending in data review or ones who did not care to update their tracking info after being certified or unlucky ones :confused:
In Regular (TR) queue, they are still certifying ones that came from DOL.:mad:
qasleuth
03-12 08:05 PM
ok...I am trying really hard to understand what you are trying to convey. What is your concern ? People will stop visiting IV and go to other websites ?
No need to be over-dramatic (did not read any one calling you a traitor). People talk about going back to their home countries too (but I actually see a small fraction of people actually doing it).
I am not sure you understand the concept of an organization offering 'services' to its members. X man hours to produce ? what are you talking about ?
My friend it is not just 'information'. Information is money. All you are talking about is 'forums/discussion boards'. I have mentioned this before as well. IV is more than a discussion board and you can make no comparison to other tracker websites.
Here is some additional info about non-profit orgs. You SHOULD read about non-profit orgs in the below link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-profit
So your definition of support is 'monetary support' only?
I am sorry for being so critical, but then someone has to.
If the idea of monetary only threads is to affirm the show of support, than am i a traitor to the greater good of retrogressed non-immigrants? This is not the right way to go.
Donors here on this very thread have already started talking about people spilling over to sites like and also if members might float other immigration websites.
why are we doing this? Why are we creating differences?
What is the Donor only thread? is it a commodity, that took 'x' man hours to produce, that you are charging money for it?
It is information. period. and as every hour passes, more organisations are providing or striving to provide information free of cost.
Also, what are we discussing in these threads, that we have to be paid members to view it?
Have you even thought about this legally?
Usually, a non-for-proft org has a fund raiser or a money raiser drive or event.
How are you even justifying asking for money to view threads, which is nothing but information that you do not own and have not worked to get it.
Believe me, this is walking on a very thin line.
No need to be over-dramatic (did not read any one calling you a traitor). People talk about going back to their home countries too (but I actually see a small fraction of people actually doing it).
I am not sure you understand the concept of an organization offering 'services' to its members. X man hours to produce ? what are you talking about ?
My friend it is not just 'information'. Information is money. All you are talking about is 'forums/discussion boards'. I have mentioned this before as well. IV is more than a discussion board and you can make no comparison to other tracker websites.
Here is some additional info about non-profit orgs. You SHOULD read about non-profit orgs in the below link:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Non-profit
So your definition of support is 'monetary support' only?
I am sorry for being so critical, but then someone has to.
If the idea of monetary only threads is to affirm the show of support, than am i a traitor to the greater good of retrogressed non-immigrants? This is not the right way to go.
Donors here on this very thread have already started talking about people spilling over to sites like and also if members might float other immigration websites.
why are we doing this? Why are we creating differences?
What is the Donor only thread? is it a commodity, that took 'x' man hours to produce, that you are charging money for it?
It is information. period. and as every hour passes, more organisations are providing or striving to provide information free of cost.
Also, what are we discussing in these threads, that we have to be paid members to view it?
Have you even thought about this legally?
Usually, a non-for-proft org has a fund raiser or a money raiser drive or event.
How are you even justifying asking for money to view threads, which is nothing but information that you do not own and have not worked to get it.
Believe me, this is walking on a very thin line.
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